Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 08:12:32 -0800
Tim,
a little more info on the IR, some years ago we evaluated and had
installed some windows that had a thin metallic film installed to reduce
RF signals from passing through. it also reduced the IR significantly.
jimb.
From: DJFerguson@swri.edu
Tim: I do not believe I saw the original request concerning IR illumination
but I have had limited success out to 100 yards using a high frequency strobe
as the light source. IR filters, heat shielding glass and fresnel lens for
focus. The entire package was bulky but successful.
This was with the illumination source inside looking out not outside looking
in.
Don
From: "MCMINIMY, RICHARD W. (JSC-JB2)"
Tim I was sent a copy of a news release from the Dallas Morning News 16
Aug 97. It is a long article titled BUGGING TRY SUSPECTED ON GONZALEZ'S
PHONE: Part of the article follows " In a routine sweep for electronic
listening devices inside the superintendent's office on Wed employees of
Security Information Service took apart Dr. Gonzalez's telephone and
found evidence that a device might have been installed inside the phone.
We believe that it is possible based on what we saw, that someone has
placed a microphone inside the telephone instrument" wrote Larry J.
Steging, The company's Vice President of Investigations. Then the
article later went on to say " The security company's report said that
the wiring in the elevator showed a sophisticated attempt to bug the
superintendents office, We also think that it may not have been
completed. We think perhaps that the discovery of the wire may have
been enough to cause the person to get rid of what had been installed."
Have you ever heard of these people? and what are your thoughts on this.
Maybe you want to send it on to the group.
Tim Johnson Writes:
On the other hand, it may be an excellent way in which to insure future business.
I'm not making the above statement as an attempt at "sour grapes", just that I've done a number of "second opinion" examinations, following sweeps by TSCM "experts" and was not able to justify their "findings". Most often, I wasn't told that the area had been "swept" by someone earlier and had arrived at my conclusions based on experience, etc. The customer was much happier with my response as they had felt the original examiner "was blowing smoke up their nether regions". I think This will be supported by 98% of the TSCM specialists out there, if they care to respond.
Tim Johnson
From: trace@on ramp.nett
A guy dials his home phone number from work. A strange woman answers. The guy says, "Who is this?"
"This is the maid.", answered the woman.
From: TOMB621@aol.com
Tim:
Call or e-mail if you want more......
Tom
Anyway, after the final round, he got up from his stool and immediately dropped to the floor. Of course, that was not at all what he had expected. I mean, he knew that he'd had quite a few, but WOW!
Billy KEPT trying to get up, and KEPT falling down again and again.
After a half dozen attempts, he finally gave up and decided to CRAWL home. At the door of his house he just assumed it would be better not to stand up, since he would almost certainly fall over again and wake his wife. So he crawled quietly to his bed and slipped under the covers next to his wife without her ever waking.
The next morning his wife spoke to him furiously. "Were you drunk again last night?," the wife asked.
Billy was surprised that he was caught after being so stealthy, and asked her how she knew.
"Well," she said, "they just called from the bar. You forgot your wheelchair!"
A man who smelled like a distillery flopped on a subway seat next to a priest. The man's tie was stained, his face was plastered with red lipstick, and a half-empty bottle of gin was sticking out of his torn coat pocket.
He opened his newspaper and began reading. After a few minutes the disheveled guy turned to the priest and asked, "Say, Father, what causes arthritis?"
"Mister, it's caused by loose living, being with cheap, wicked women, too much alcohol, and a contempt for your fellow man."
"Well, I'll be damned," the drunk muttered, returning to his paper.
The priest, thinking about what he had said, nudged the man and apologized. "I'm very sorry, I didn't mean to come on so strong. How long have you had arthritis?"
"I don't have it, Father. I was just reading here that the Pope does."
Well, folks that's it for this edition.
I look forward to having you submit inquiries pertaining to any aspect of security that you need an answer to or would like to discuss. I'll be glad to post your inquiry anonymously if you desire.
From: "Boller, James"
RE: IR
metallic film on windows may reduce the IR by 90% or better.
jimb.
Subject: re: IR
To: "'TIM'"
Subject: bug
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:01:31 -0500
Why place a microphone in a telephone; it already contains two to four excellent listening devices--the microphone in the mouthpiece, the earphone, the speaker and the microphone for hands free operation.
dbugman@dbugman.com
Subject: Jokes in this morning's e-mail
Good comments for when you get pulled over:
"We don't have a maid!"
"I was just hired this morning by the lady of the house."
"Well, this is her husband. Is she there?"
"Ummm...she's upstairs in the bedroom with someone who I just figured was her husband."
The guy is fuming. He says to the maid, "Listen, would you like to make $50,000?"
"What do I have to do?"
"I want you to get my gun from my desk in the den and shoot that witch and the jerk she's with."
The maid puts down the phone. The guy hears footsteps, followed by a couple of gunshots.
The maid comes back to the phone. "What should I do with the bodies?"
"Throw them in the swimming pool!"
"What pool?"
"Uh.. is this 832-4821?"
Subject: Re: IR through glass
We use an IR local source (Black Light) with success. Have you seen the
literature or the demos? Basically, you are illuminating the interior of the
car with a light source that is IN the car, but cannot be seen by the
occupants. A B&W (non-IR filtered) video camera will see the interior about
as well as it would with a visible light source in the car.
FALLING DOWN DRUNK!
There was this guy named Billy sitting in the local bar, drinking more than just a few bourbon and cokes one night. Around two o'clock in the morning, one last round was offered. Though he knew he shouldn't, he took another drink.
Until later