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Some responses (all anonymous because I didn't want to take any chances) to the question about multiple bugging devices.
Tim - Interesting questions, can't help but ask the 5 w's about your associate !
Because it's you though, and because your questions are quite pointed, my reply to the first one (multiple devices) Answer is yes - but not too often (usually 'selective targeting' - where 2 / 3 phones in a large company are cross connected to o/g spare pairs for obvious reasons.
Answer to second one (Battery operated TX's in Crimnal/covert ops) - a
big 'yes' - when circumstances dictated same from an operational standpoint.
hope this is a help
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> Has anyone out there ever found multiple devices in the same
> location on the same sweep?
Not devices, but found four hookswitch bypasses on the same system on the same job about 15 years ago.
> Have any of you former Federal types ever used battery operated > transmitters in criminal/covert operations?
Very frequently. Have you not seen the pictures of entire hollow doors stacked full of 9 volt batteries? Battery packs above the damper in unused fireplaces?
Now a former phed and manufacturing equipment for them, the pheds are fairly heavy (50-100 pieces a year between all domestic agencies) users of our video/audio body wire. They use them about 50% body worn and 50% mobile or fixed portable.
I'm at NATIA this week and hearing these stats from hundreds of guys using our stuff.
Look in any of the professional elsur catalogs (AID, HDS, Tactical, us, LEA) and look at all the battery operated devices.
Do people think covert transmitters are line operated?
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Yes, to the second question regarding the use of battery operated devices. Several times. Not sure that I want to get into it.
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Yes. I have found multiple devices at the same location on the same sweep on more than one occasion.
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I haven't, but I know someone who has. He found 3 telephone taps in one location. I'll contact him and let him decide if he wants to share with you.
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On one occasion, I found three hits in one large conference room. They were mike & wire to identical Panasonic VOX recorders at either ends of the room. The mikes were concealed in the drapery valances. The third hit was a hot phone. Sorry, NFI.
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Tim......You know we have!!! The stuff OSI had worked great. Can't do it much any more except for consentual. About the only tech equipment I use now are audio recorders with powered mikes and photography. Been busy lately with a death penalty case, but it is interesting to say the least. Keep in touch.
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I found a inductive tape and a parasitic transmitter in a phone. Does that
help?
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Several weeks ago I had a chance to examine a number of spread spectrum microwave bugging devices.
Since that time I've conducted some analysis and gathered further intelligence on the circuit.
Here are a few of my observations.
Hello everyone,
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I've recently purchased a Scout in Hong Kong and have spent a bit of time understanding it and talking with the Opto people in Ft Lauderdale.
There are a few things about the Opto Scout to know (based on my experience anyway- it will only display the locked on frequency when that frequency is 10% greater than the ambient surroundings. The Scout also generates its own frequency (about 245 Mhz) from within and this will be displayed on the Scouts display with the aerial I have. When you begin to receive a stonger signal (say from a bug) the frequency will move towards the bugs frequency. If you have FILTER switched on, it might lock on to the frequency (although you do not have the benefit of seeing the frequency move towards it)
If the bug/transmitter does not have a precise frequency, but rather tends to jump about (eg. Do It Yourself Kit Bugs available at your friendly HK electronics hobby shop for $US3 per set) the Scout will NOT always lock on to the frequency when in FILTER mode. The gate settings on the Scout, in my opinion, are not suitable for DIY bugs- at least those available in HK and you can easily miss the bug- even if the Scout is sitting on top of it. (This is a function of the Scout's filtering software- everything to the 2nd decimal place or more. If it detected to
the 1st decimal place the Scout would be "near" perfect for TSCM work.)
However, in scan mode the bargraph of the Scout will increase as you near the bug. So if you take a test of the outside environment and again when you enter the target area, you will notice the frequency changes. My friend, who also debugs here in Hong Kong for a major debugging company also uses a Scout, but does not use the FILTER on method to detect bugs.
He uses the bargraph. (I might add the Scout is also the first piece of equipment he turns on when he arrives.)
You also have to consider the antenae being used. The short stubby one is best around 800MHz. I use an 3' extendable 70 to 1000MHz antenae, but this is no good for 70MHz or less. Opto Electronics can sell you a 40MHZ antenae, a mid range antennae and an upper frequency antenae, plus a couple of filters which are NOT suitable for TSCM work as they each
block out a lot of the spectrum. OE also used to produce an amplifier antenae/booster, but does not any more.
The Scout is very particular about the antenae used. There is no one antenae that can pick up the entire 40MHz to 1.4 Gig range of signals the Scout can receive. The distance from the device means little if the antenae is not tuned to the frequency you wish to receive (unless of course its a powerful transmitter close enough to the Scout.)
The Scout DOES NOT lock onto digital signals. (eg GSM mobiles). But I am told will easily lock on to analogue mobile frequencies, taxis etc at a fair distance. (300' was what I was told.)
There is a very knowlegeable sales manager at Opto Electronics (forgotten his name) and a technician called Kenny. They are really helpful. Give them a call. I would also like to know others views on the Scout as I have described above.
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Until Later,
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From: "James M. Atkinson, Comm-Eng"
Subject: Spread Spectrum Update
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I couldn't resist cutting and pasting the following from another board.
I am interested in knowing if anyone has delt with a company called "CCS". If so, How was their product line, knowlege, customer service, ranking among other supplers and anything else that you have time to pass. Thank you very much.
Tim Johnson