Bulletin Board #10
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:12:12 -0700
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From: Tim Johnson
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#1
Employment opportunity
From the OPSEC site
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NIP - http://www.oss.net/nip
Position: Programmer/Analyst
DynCorp
Southern California Range Operations Center
Range Development Section
NASNI, Bldg. 1479
San Diego, Ca. 92135
contact person: Katheryn Whitfield
phone: (619)522-2224 fax: (619)522-2229 email: kathy@score.com
Position Description: Responsible for recommending and implementing
enhancements to existing software or development of new software designed
to improve the operational efficiency and to support the range user
requests for additional range capabilities.
Qualifications Requirements: A Bachelor's degree in Computer Science or
Mathematics as well as four years experience programming C/C++ language
applications under the Unix/X11/Motif operating system environment.
Desirable experience in underwater tracking system development. Ability
to acquire a SECRET clearance is a must.
#2
Reference the TV Special
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:25:55 -0500
From: Bob_Maher@tds.com (Bob Maher)
Subject: Re: Assistance needed for TV show
WARNING -- had a recent situation where a "British TV group" was
gathering info on high tech stuff . Wanted to film and interview on some
sensitive Government stuff. Turned out to be an operation that gathered
the information and sold it to interested parties (usually foreign
Governments or industries) -- whoever could benefit from the info. They
claimed to be from the BBC with connections to the Discovery channel.
Found out this was not so. Please verify their origins, and be careful not
to be blinded by the "spotlight"!!!
#3
Turning over bugs
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:52:37 -0600
From: Trace Carpenter
Subject: Turning over Bugs
last time I checked, the installation of a device is a violation of
Federal law. And a private company doing TSCM does not have the
authority to not report it to the proper authorities. I think that could also be considered violation of a Federal law. Regardless of what the customer wants,
The question is do you have a violation if you do not have a complainant? What I mean by that is I can have a device on my phone if I want to. If you illicitly place a recorder on my line, and I have
supreme authority over my line, and I don't file a complaint is there a
crime?
I have had very good luck in the past placing surveillance on tape
recorders which have been placed on my client's lines and catching the
culprit. If you don't, how are you going to prove who did it for
prosecution. The FBI isn't too concerned about divorce cases. We
turned one lady over to them who was VERY adamant that she wanted to pay
us to bug her boyfriend's phone. We referred it to a contact at the
Dallas office of the FBI who ran her history, saw she wasn't a
"political spy" type and basically told us they didn't have time to deal
with these types of cases. In fact, from what we know now, they never
even contacted her.
What are your thoughts? How would you prove who was doing the work and get a conviction?
Sincerely,
Trace Carpenter
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#4 New Report Details FBI/European Tapping Agreements
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:23:46 -0500
From: "Kevin D. Murray"
To: TSCM Colleagues, and interested security professionals
Subject: FYI - Project TAP (Tape ALL People)
A report issued on Feb. 24 by Statewatch, a London-based advocacy
organization, shows that the FBI has been working with its counterparts
in the European Union for five years to create a "global tapping
system." The report reveals the existence of a Memorandum of
Understanding to ensure that surveillance of all existing and new
technologies is compatible and coordinated with the FBI's efforts to
advance its "digital telephony" agenda within the United States.
The FBI's plan is to facilitate wiretapping worldwide by pressuring
countries to harmonize national laws on interception; increase
cooperation of telecommunications providers; ensure equipment has
interception standards incorporated; and create de facto global
standards by persuading as many countries as possible to cooperate and
by providing compatible equipment to non-participating countries.
To achieve these goals, the FBI and its EU counterparts wrote a
resolution adopted by the Council of the European Union on "the lawful
interception of telecommunications." The Council issued the resolution
on Jan 17, 1995 (unpublished until November 1996) and a Memorandum of
Understanding on the requirements that need to be adopted into all
laws. The MOU has been signed by the 15 member countries of the EU, and
the US. There have also been "expressions of support" from Australia,
Canada, and Norway. The FBI and EU have also pushed the requirements as
standards before the international telecommunications standards bodies
such as the ITU and pressured other countries to adopt them.
The requirements are almost exactly the same as the FBI demands for
digital telephony. They include "real-time access" to the "entire
telecommunication transmitted" sent to a "law enforcement monitoring
facility", access to all associated call data, geographic location
information for mobile phone users, decrypted information for all
operator-provided encryption, and response times "in urgent cases within
hours or minutes."
The report notes that even countries that do not agree will be
affected:
The strategy appears to be to first get the "Western world" (EU, US
plus allies) to agree to "norms" and "procedures" and then to sell
these products to Third World countries -- who even if they do not
agree to "interception orders" will find their telecommunications
monitored ... the minute it hits the airwaves.
The digital telephony proposal has received significant criticism in
the United States since its adoption in 1994. The FBI originally
claimed that law provided a mandate to simultaneously monitor a
significantly higher percentage of phone lines that is current practice
in the US. That interpretation was withdrawn after public protect.
The FBI then claimed that the law would require the development of a
global locator system based on the nation's telephone system. That
interpretation was also withdrawn after public protect. Several
members of Congress have said that they will oppose future funding of
the plan.
A copy of the Statewatch report, the Council of Europe Resolution and
more information is available at:
http://www.privacy.org/pi/activities/tapping/
Thanks to EPIC for passing this on to us. From EPIC Alert 4.03.
Kevin
#5
Assistance needed for TV show
From: ClarkAB@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:52:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Assistance needed for TV show
Tim:
Candidly speaking, I am very concerned about such a show. In todays' world
of high tech everything, why in the world would anyone want to broadcast on
public television the techniques utilized by law enforcement and private
industry security professionals the tools of the trade which target
criminals.
I tend to think those in the public media business are so naive to think that
criminals do not watch television, video tape such shows and utilize them as
training films for their own folks in targeting people such as us.
I would not like to consider the consequences of how my life would be
affected if a criminal gang were to target me utilizing the same devices that
retired federal agents and others utilize to target criminals.
I will make a simple request. Please make every effort to deter this lady
from publicizing the tools of our trade. The concept of counterintelligence
methods and techniques being freely and publicly compromised to any criminal
capable of owning a television and VCR scares the hell out of me. I strongly
urge you to make this effort on the behalf of all of us (including yourself)
as our lives may depend on this.
Thank you.
ED LAWTON
#6
Assistance needed for TV show
From: ClarkAB@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:01:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Industrial espionage acts
Tim:
This is a review of my comments pertaining to your earlier message. Please
do not support this initiative. Again, techniques involved in industrial
espionage do not need to be publicized on television. Your motto indicates
that what is said in private, is private. So what is wrong with the picture
painted in your message.
Have you ever considered that the M.O.'s, types of equipment utilized and
officer responses in the reenactments on television (Top Cops, Best Stories
of the Highway Patrol, etc) are evaluated and practices by criminals still on
the streets in attempts to determine weaknesses of other law enforcement or
security personnel!
If I could, I would send out my messages to you to all the folks you send
your messages to. In fairness, I think you should evaluate the benefits of
this womans' show with respect to the potential dangers other officers and
police or security personnel will potentially encounter because of the
unnecessary publicity she will provide. What is her motive? Let's keep our
capabilities where they belong, out of sight!
ED L.
#7
The following was printed at list@investigations.com, a Private
Investigators site, in response to a request for information:
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:37:26 -0800 (PST)
From: list@investigations.com (PROINV-L-DIGEST)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:49:40 -0800
From: "W. M. Johnson"
Subject: Industrial Espionage
Greetings:
Tim Johnson mentioned an upcoming series of TV programs to be filmed
in the US by what is apparently an Australian production crew. I'm
sure Mr. Johnson and other experienced investigators know how to
protect themselves from "Delphi" and other sophisticated pretext
attacks, but I felt I should post a few comments to the list since
several new people have recently joined the group.
As many of you know, I'm a former government investigator, Pinkerton
official and the founder of BECCA, the Business Espionage Controls &
Countermeasures Association. I'm also the author of "Who's Stealing
Your Business? - How To Identify & Prevent Business Espionage," a book
published by the American Management Association, the largest provider
of management training.
The "reporter" and/or "film crew" pretexts are among the most common
pretexts used in business espionage. It's not that difficult to set
up a "shoot," as many of you know. I wrote an article for Sterling
Publications in England regarding the "Delphi" method of interviewing
as it is used by legitimate researchers, reporters, and people posing
as such. In brief:
The Delphi method of interviewing is named after the Temple of Apollo
at Delphi and was developed by Rand Corporation mathematicians Olaf
Helmer and Norman Dalkey. Specialized interviews based on the Delphi
method are legitimate forecasting tools, but are also used by spies.
>These interviews deliver the single most likely guess as to what a company
or industry will be doing in the future based on projections
made by the best minds involved in the field at the present.< In very
simple terms it works like this:
- Poll experts on a subject (equipment, business practices, etc.) separately and in private regarding both their rational projections and their gut reaction hunches.
- Repeat the interviews several times if possible, after the experts have had a chance to think about and reevaluate their data.
- Break these data down to isolate a group opinion covering an are of interest. (Those being questioned may or may not know the real intent of the interviewer.)
- If possible, bring those polled together to "talk out" a consensus. The results can provide an honest and straightforward look at thfuture if the information gathered is shared with all of the contributors. There are many dishonest variations of Delphi Technique however some of which the original developers would no doubt find appalling. I've been pretexted by several "freelance reporters" and "T.V. producers." One of the "reporters" was a former Cold-War warrior who was setting up shop in the private sector. (I would have been more help to him if he had been straight-forward.)
I'm not suggesting that we need to be fearful of everyone asking questions. Communications are vital to any business and there are many good reasons for keeping the channels open. However, it is always wise to ask questions, and verify the answers,< before you answer someone else's questions. I'm looking forward to hearing more about the Australian production.
All the best,
William M. Johnson, Ph.D., CCO
TEL: 206-364-4672 FAX: 206-367-3316
#8
A response
Tim Johnson
dbugman@amug.org
In response to the above concerns, I have requested additional information
to verify the authenticity of the requestor and an outline of the proposed
presentation. In partial support of the proposed presentation, they have
produced the following specials.
"Ultrascience" is half hour science documentary series produced in
Australia by Beyond Productions, for the US company Discovery
Communications Inc. Beyond has been producing television information,
drama and comedy programs and feature films and documentaries for almost
12 years. Perhaps you're seen Beyond 2000, Invention or the feature
documentaries Shuttle and Submarines: Sharks of Steel, all have been
broadcast on Discovery.
I'd like to get more input from you folks with your views and thoughts. Do
you think the "bad guys" know about the technology? Do you think they have
access to the equipment? Do you think the people in a position of
protecting information know as much as they should about how to protect
it? (This last question is directed to those who have attended security
seminars [such as TSCI's TSCM/POPI] in which some of the threats and
technology were discussed? Who do you feel would benefit more from the
information.
The above questions are not asked to solicit support for or against the
special, but rather to provide insite into what the bad guys probably
already know and what the good guys don't kmow.
Personally, having presented quite a few security seminars with Gary
Bunker, I feel that most of the people in security DON'T realize what the
technical threat is, nor how to counter it. Neither do they know where to
get reliable information or support. (Again, I'd like input from some of
you have attended security seminars--did you come away with a different
view or attitude. did you feel knowledgable before attending and what was
you outlook after having time to digest the information provided.)
Your comments are earnestly solicited and if you wish to make a statement,
but do not wish top be identified, let me know and I'll keep you anonymous.
#9
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 97 08:24:20 -0000
From: Nick Robson
The SCI Security Newsletter
Volume 2#3 March 1997
Quicken & ActiveX
Hackers belonging to the Hamburg, Germany Chaos Computer Club have
demonstrated an ActiveX control that will transfer funds from users' bank
accounts without using a personal identification or transaction number.
The Chaos crackers demonstrated their hostile ActiveX control on a German
TV show to make their point about what they saw as
the security risks posed by ActiveX. If made available on a web site,
the control could install itself on a users' computer an covertly check
to see if the popular personal-finance software package, Quicken, is
installed.
Continuing the scenario, if the control had found Quicken,
it would issue a transfer order and add it to that application's batch
of existing transfer orders. The next time the Quicken user paid their
bills, the illicit transfer would be included, unnoticed by the victim.
Quicken claims to have more than 9 million active users worldwide.
Computer security experts, who have been highly critical of
Microsoft's ActiveX, said this was just another example of why the
technology should be abandoned.
"ActiveX may be very useful for intranets, but it has no place on the
Internet because of the security problems," said Kevin McCurley, a
cryptography expert at Sandia National Laboratories.
The entire issue of potential risks in ActiveX and related technologies
is a significant network security hot topic these days. This Quicken
story (a response from Intuit is below) is but a very minor aspect of a
much broader concern over ActiveX issues which has been raging in some
quarters.
It seems clear that some new systems to tightly couple users to remote
environments are being deployed with insufficient consideration being
given to the "real world" issues which are unlikely to be solved through
technological wizardry alone, to say the least.
More Security Holes In Microsofts Internet Explorer
EliaShim the anti virus and computer security software manufacturer warns
of security hole in Internet Explorer
Less than a week after the discovery of a potential security gap in
Internet Explorer 4.0, Microsoft Corp. may have another hole to fill.
EliaShim Ltd. claims it has
identified security problems in Microsoft Internet Mail and News
applications. "Hostile links" can be embedded in newsgroup messages or in
messages received by Internet Mail as shortcuts, company officials said.
And another Internet Explorer Bug Found
Another bug in Microsoft's Internet Explorer has been discovered by a
group of University of Maryland students. The students posted their
results at their Web site recently and claimed that the bug could let a
hacker remotely break into a user's computer or install viruses onto the
system. UMD students David Ross, Dennis Cheng, and Asher Kobin found the
bug in IE 3.01.
Microsoft acknowledges the bug but hasn't defined it full impact.
The bug apparently centers around IE's Iframe, or floating
frames feature.
The patch for the URL/LNK bug does not fix the UMD student's bug. The
students' Web site is at http://dec.dorm.umd.edu/ . Microsoft's IE site is at http://www.microsoft.com/ie .
Year 2000 ?
At a recent meeting sponsored by the Electronic Banking Economics
Society, one speaker predicted that a bankruptcy rate of between 1% and
5% could
result directly from costs related to fixing the notorious "Year 2000
Problem." "If you have not yet begun a Year 2000 conversion today, you
will not be able to convert by 2000," he said, noting that there are just
over 100
weekends left to work on systems affected by the problem. If companies
choose to ignore the problem, they'll be liable for millions in lawsuits
brought by shareholders when company stock prices begin to plummet. Only
one third of U.S. companies are addressing the problem, with another
third entering the preliminary discussion phase, and the other third doing
nothing. Still, that's better than the rest of the world: "Britain is
three steps behind the United States on this issue, Europe about 10 steps
behind the United States on the issue, and Japan is about 15 steps behind
the
United States on the issue," a consultant said.
Internal LAN Security
Many organizations still perceive that the main threat to their network
security will come from outside the organization in the form of hackers
or criminals intent on fraud.
However, equal if not more attention should be paid to ways in which
networks can be compromised from within an organization. The
proliferation of technology has meant that within an organization
hundreds of Local Area Networks (LANs) can be communicating with each
other across the world. The speed of business demands that systems are
able to react quickly and transparently, but this must be balanced
against the need for security
As networks have grown in complexity, there has been a greater need for
management controls and tools to fix problems as they occur. One such
tool is the LAN analyzer, which is a sophisticated piece of hardware or
software which can monitor the network and "listen" to everything that is
transmitted. At the low end there is public domain software - so-called
"sniffers". These programs are available freely on the Internet and are
relatively easy to use.
Sniffers obviously have serious security implications - anyone could be
picking up not only confidential information but data such as passwords,
which could be used at a later date to hack the system and access
accounts or even take over the network.
Moreover, information which has been sniffed and captured could be played
back, to do a duplicate payroll, for example or even crash the network.
It is not only your network security which has to be considered. Third
party advisers such as accountants, management consultants and tax
advisers pass sensitive information about your company over their network
- how can you be sure that their networks are protected from LAN
sniffers?
The dangers are obvious. As the business world becomes more and more
competitive, sensitive corporate and personal data held by organizations
(e.g. share information, financial statements, acquisition details,
passwords) in the hands of the wrong person can be harmful to both
companies and individuals.
Solutions
Companies are working on software and hardware solutions to make it more
difficult for the determined hacker, whether inside or outside the
organization, to violate corporate networks.
There are four key aspects of network security: access control,
authentication, data integrity and privacy. An overriding factor is that
all security mechanisms should be transparent to the user and should not diminish overall network performance or operation.
To be continued in next issue.
SCI Ltd.
Security * Computers * Communications
P.O. Box 30498 SMB
Grand Cayman, B.W.I.
E-mail: sci.ltd@candw.ky
HTTP : http://www.candw.ky/customer/tscm/
Tim Johnson